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	<title>Comments on: No Thing is Unclean</title>
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	<description>Theological explorations by Matt Heerema</description>
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		<title>By: mheerema</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tweaked a few things for clarity.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mark Priestap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Priestap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;amen! :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!&quot; - Rom 11:33&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amen! <img src='http://www.notourhome.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>&quot;Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!&quot; &#8211; Rom 11:33</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mheerema</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yup, will need to clarify the sex outside of marriage part.  My sentence structure is unclear.  &quot;It is not the sex act that is the sin.&quot;  That is my meaning.  It is impossible to have un-sinful extra-marital sex.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And you are right on about the &quot;resting from work&quot; a la Hebrews 4.  I am indeed describing the fruit of faith.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The point is this:  when deciding whether a particular deed, course of action, etc, is sinful, the question is always: &quot;Was it done in faith (in the finished work of Christ)?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I could go to Galatians here as well.  Maybe I should.  &quot;Neither circumcision or uncircumcision is anything, but only faith working through love.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, will need to clarify the sex outside of marriage part.  My sentence structure is unclear.  &quot;It is not the sex act that is the sin.&quot;  That is my meaning.  It is impossible to have un-sinful extra-marital sex.</p>

<p>And you are right on about the &quot;resting from work&quot; a la Hebrews 4.  I am indeed describing the fruit of faith.</p>

<p>The point is this:  when deciding whether a particular deed, course of action, etc, is sinful, the question is always: &quot;Was it done in faith (in the finished work of Christ)?&quot;</p>

<p>I could go to Galatians here as well.  Maybe I should.  &quot;Neither circumcision or uncircumcision is anything, but only faith working through love.&quot;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Priestap</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brian has a point...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you might have meant to say that &quot;sex&quot; isn&#039;t sin. Premarital sex, both the act and the motives behind it are all sinful from start to finish, just like murder. Killing is not sinful, but murder is... sex is not sinful, but premarital sex is. The lack of faith produces the perversion of both sex and killing and turns them into premarital sex and murder respectively.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;The line is faith. Are you doing what you are doing (whatever it is that you find yourself doing!) to further magnify The Glory of The Lord Jesus? This is what he asks us to do, whether eating, drinking, working, sleeping, playing, or praying, hugging or Twittering. It is for Him, not for you.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think what you&#039;re describing is the fruit of faith, that as children of God we want to glorify him. That is very true indeed. But I fear that the danger of the admonition is that we strive for the fruit (which will produce despair or pride) rather than to strive to enter into the rest (Heb. 4) in the finished work of Christ which produces that fruit in sinners who are grateful for having been redeemed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said there is a lot of good stuff to chew on. Thanks Matt!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian has a point&#8230;</p>

<p>I think you might have meant to say that &quot;sex&quot; isn&#039;t sin. Premarital sex, both the act and the motives behind it are all sinful from start to finish, just like murder. Killing is not sinful, but murder is&#8230; sex is not sinful, but premarital sex is. The lack of faith produces the perversion of both sex and killing and turns them into premarital sex and murder respectively.</p>

<p>&quot;The line is faith. Are you doing what you are doing (whatever it is that you find yourself doing!) to further magnify The Glory of The Lord Jesus? This is what he asks us to do, whether eating, drinking, working, sleeping, playing, or praying, hugging or Twittering. It is for Him, not for you.&quot;</p>

<p>I think what you&#039;re describing is the fruit of faith, that as children of God we want to glorify him. That is very true indeed. But I fear that the danger of the admonition is that we strive for the fruit (which will produce despair or pride) rather than to strive to enter into the rest (Heb. 4) in the finished work of Christ which produces that fruit in sinners who are grateful for having been redeemed.</p>

<p>That said there is a lot of good stuff to chew on. Thanks Matt!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mheerema</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This post is definitely a work in progress.  I think I&#039;m going to stick to my point here.  Maybe I need to more explicitly say &quot;it is not the sex that is the sin&quot;.  The upshot here is that this is why Christ says it is just as sinful to lust as to actually commit adultery (actually he says if you are lusting you are committing adultery).  It is the heart issue that is the sin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NOW, from a social standpoint (which is as important) lust is only in the heart and only defiling yourself.  Carrying out the act would be defiling someone else along with yourself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still working this out.  Thanks for the participation :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is definitely a work in progress.  I think I&#039;m going to stick to my point here.  Maybe I need to more explicitly say &quot;it is not the sex that is the sin&quot;.  The upshot here is that this is why Christ says it is just as sinful to lust as to actually commit adultery (actually he says if you are lusting you are committing adultery).  It is the heart issue that is the sin.</p>

<p>NOW, from a social standpoint (which is as important) lust is only in the heart and only defiling yourself.  Carrying out the act would be defiling someone else along with yourself.</p>

<p>Still working this out.  Thanks for the participation <img src='http://www.notourhome.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian Warshaw</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good article, though I don&#039;t feel comfortable saying that individual sinful acts are not sinful acts. I fully believe that breaking commandments 3-10 begins with breaking 1-2, but there are still individual commandments (I&#039;m only using the 10 as an example--not to exclude others).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know what you&#039;re getting at, but I fear that (though I suspect unintentionally) the particular statement about premarital sex abstracts away an individual sin that the Lord calls out specifically in his Word on numerous occasions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t mean to deviate from your actual point here (which is important, and essential to folks understanding why they sin and why every sin should be viewed as offensive to God), just felt that should be said.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, though I don&#039;t feel comfortable saying that individual sinful acts are not sinful acts. I fully believe that breaking commandments 3-10 begins with breaking 1-2, but there are still individual commandments (I&#039;m only using the 10 as an example&#8211;not to exclude others).</p>

<p>I know what you&#039;re getting at, but I fear that (though I suspect unintentionally) the particular statement about premarital sex abstracts away an individual sin that the Lord calls out specifically in his Word on numerous occasions.</p>

<p>Don&#039;t mean to deviate from your actual point here (which is important, and essential to folks understanding why they sin and why every sin should be viewed as offensive to God), just felt that should be said.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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